Te-shan had only a few disciples, of whom two stood out: Yen-t'ou Ch'üan-huo (828-887) and Hsüeh-feng I-ts'un (822-908). In spiritual gifts, Yen-t'ou was superior to Hsüeh-feng. Yen-t'ou's mind was sharp as a razor. He never deferred to anyone, not even Te-shan and T'ung-shan. One day, as he came to see Te-shan, no sooner had he stepped into the door than he asked, “Is it holy or profane?” As Te-shan shouted, Yen-t'ou did obeisance. Later, when someone related the incident to T'ung-shan, the latter remarked, “Anyone else than Yen-t'ou would have found it hard to respond so well.” When Yen-t'ou heard of this compliment, he said, “The old man of T'ung-shan is very insensible to have passed such an erroneous judgment. He does not know that on that particular occasion, in acting the way I did, I was uplifting him (Te-shan) by one hand while pinching him by the other hand.”
In asking, “Is it holy or profane?” Yen-t'ou was, of course, referring to that state in which there is no more distinction between the holy and profane. In shouting at the question, Teshan made him understand that he saw eye-to-eye with him. In doing obeisance, he was on the one hand showing his delight at the master's reaction, but on the other hand he was testing how he would react. But poor Te-shan sat like an idol and accepted unsuspectingly a homage which was meant for the merely “holy”!
Yen-t'ou's radical transcendentalism finds an illustration in another episode. As he was chatting with his friends Hsüeh-feng and Ch'in-shan, Hsüeh-feng suddenly pointed at a basin filled with plain water. Ch'in-shan remarked, “When the water is clear, the moon appears.” Hsüeh-feng said, “When the water is clear, the moon disappears.” Yen-t'ou said nothing, but, kicking off the basin, went away.
In this episode, it is clear that Ch'in-shan's approach is positive, while Hsüeh-feng's is negative. But what is the big idea of kicking off the bowl? Probably, Yen-t'ou wished by his act to indicate the need of transcending both the positive and negative. Yen-t'ou often spoke of the “last word,” which, in his view, few Zen masters understood. Can it be that his kicking in this case is the last word? Anyway, he very seldom if ever allowed another to say the last word.